Woot : One Day, One Deal (SM)

bought the 20" back in june/july. it still works..
wished the color was better and that it ran cooler

would not recommend

GetRhythm wrote:I get that I can use an adapter to connect my DVI video card to this. But that won't have audio, given that the video card only pushes a video signal. Is there a 3.5mm audio-in jack on this to drive the speakers?

Yes, this monitor has speakers and should come with a 3.5 speaker cable. But monitor speakers are usually sucky. Just get a cheap pair or speakers and you will be better off.

kaptainkirk wrote:23inch 1080p for 150 isnt bad, but i dont like the fact its refurb. There might be dead pixels and although a few isnt bad i still wouldnt trust it. Just go to newegg and get a new 21.5 for the same price or a new 23 for like $20 more.

the only 21.5 I see at newegg at this price is an open box model from acer. everything else is at least $20 more, but I don't know what they charge for shipping.

Famous Maker de-branded is often new product that has been decoupled from its original brand because it was excess inventory that needed to be disposed of at a lower price; to avoid cannibalizing sales of the brand item, they are not sold under that brand.

Kind of like generic groceries which are often overruns or excess from the production of food intended to be sold under a specific brand.

Infusor wrote:Uh...vga can't do 1080p, so only one of those inputs is fully functional.

uh, no...it will go higher than that. Look at this video card http://anvshopper.net/viduvga2db15.html it will do up to 2048 x 1536 @ 85Hz(Analog) 1080p is only 1920 X 1080 @ 60hz

abaddon wrote:Is that Christopher Daniels on the monitor there doing a flying body press?

I believe that is The Fallen Angel himself, anyone know who his opponent is

this is why i should have read all of the posts first.

anyway to salvage my dignity , any Pro Wrestling fans, obviously a few of us in this thread alone

SkippyFlipjack wrote:the only 21.5 I see at newegg at this price is an open box model from acer. everything else is at least $20 more, but I don't know what they charge for shipping.

The ASUS VH222H is 150 with a rebate. But monitors come up frequently for less and sometimes with free shipping. Just wait till newegg's black friday deals and you can prob get a new 23 1080p for around 170 or less.

GetRhythm wrote:I get that I can use an adapter to connect my DVI video card to this. But that won't have audio, given that the video card only pushes a video signal. Is there a 3.5mm audio-in jack on this to drive the speakers?

Yes, there is a jack on the back to run the small included speakers.

mmiteshm wrote:Youtube review.

Really good review

I read that as a good verdict on the monitor, which - of course - it isn't.

Unless you live in a dark cave or basement, or like having the shades down all day, I'd say stay away from glossy monitors...

I got the branded version with my computer. It's got great color/picture and it came with VGA, DVI, and HDMI. Maybe this one is older so that's why there is no DVI.

I wonder why there are so many "Famous Maker" reburbs though? I spent 3 weeks trying to get support (Not for the monitor) and they couldn't do more than read a script to me. I don't know how anyone gets anything RMA'ed with that company.

Anyway, refurb + junk support from the "Famous Maker" = junk...to sell on Woot! PASS

Infusor wrote:Uh...vga can't do 1080p, so only one of those inputs is fully functional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_display_standard

The venerable VGA connector can do resolutions that make 1080p weep. There is no theoretical limit on the VGA connector. It really matters how extreme you want to get with your cabling and hardware.

Ten years ago I was playing Doom at ~2500x~1600@~100+ FPS. That is twice the resoluition of 1080p and 4 times the FPS.

DVI and HDMI is about content protection (DRM) not picture quality.

Is it just me, or does the idea of HDCP bug anyone else? What if I create an unencrypted hi-def DVD (or somethin') I want to watch and this !@#$% monitor doesn't let me? Doesn't that sound like more forced compliance to anyone else?

Question: are there any similar monitors _without_ HDCP? Or do they come at a premium?

Thanks in advance.

Darquis wrote:Looking for a new monitor for the folks, but the height has to be adjustable (their rule, not mine). For this one, is it?

to me, the stand does not look to be adjustable, nor can it be tilted to the longview. which kinda kills this for me, but i really need one of this size.

stryper2000 wrote:I believe that is The Fallen Angel himself, anyone know who his opponent is

They are calling him "Wonderkid" Jonny Storm on Flickr. What happened to Curry Man? Bring him back! Daniels has about as much personality as a ring mat.

YouCantWootThis wrote:Got ine llike this on a previous woot. Fantastic display. best woot I've made so far. In for another one!

Sheesh wooters, Newegg has brand new models for $170 shipped. I just ordered a 23" Acer that supports HDMI,DVI,RGB w/ speakers even for $170.

Would this work with an HDMI to RCA converter?

RickP wrote:Famous Maker de-branded is often new product that has been decoupled from its original brand because it was excess inventory that needed to be disposed of at a lower price; to avoid cannibalizing sales of the brand item, they are not sold under that brand.

Wouldn't the Condition on this be "New" then instead of "Refurb"?

eRuttan wrote:Ten years ago I was playing Doom at ~2500x~1600@~100+ FPS. That is twice the resoluition of 1080p and 4 times the FPS.

How is 2500x1600 twice that of 1920x1080? 2x1920x1080 is 3840x2160.
How does your 100hz CRT monitor have 4x more frame rate than a 60hz LCD? Side note 120hz monitors are popping up now in the gaming scene.

Bought the 24" version a few months ago and so far it's GREAT!

A few months ago they had one similar to this on sellout. It was a 24 inch one with just about same specs.

http://sellout.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=9004

She didn't need one that big and put it up on ebay. Sold it for $50 bucks more than what she spent. As far as quality we didn't even open the box, we just shipped it out. But she got a good rating on ebay. There might have been a dead pixel but not sure since we didn't see it.

I thought this was an HP monitor from the symbol in the picture. Not sure about famous makers. I agree about the no DVI..it's hard to find a good videocard for a good price with a HDMI on it as of now.

I do know that I have 2 dell 23 inch monitors hooked up and they are freaking sweet! I love duel monitors. it's just buy 2 acers from newegg when they are on sell if it where me....

schni wrote:I read that as a good verdict on the monitor, which - of course - it isn't.

Unless you live in a dark cave or basement, or like having the shades down all day, I'd say stay away from glossy monitors...

lol i am a cellar dweller. not my moms basement either. I own this house and all the kewl stuff is in the basement.

enoeno45 wrote:How is 2500x1600 twice that of 1920x1080? 2x1920x1080 is 3840x2160.
How does your 100hz CRT monitor have 4x more frame rate than a 60hz LCD? Side note 120hz monitors are popping up now in the gaming scene.

Sir, I suggest you start learning the difference between refresh rate and frame rate.

Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate

A CRT monitor @100HZ with VSync will get 100FPS, without VSync it will be uncapped (though you might notice tearing).

Plus LCD's have motion blur BUILT IN. It's called response time.

Please, do some research.

Are you kidding me? No DVI???

I highly question any monitor that is made without DVI as an input. I was about to purchase two for an eyefinity set up but obviously, no DVI = no eyefinity.

zwaldo wrote:I thought this was an HP monitor from the symbol in the picture. Not sure about famous makers. I agree about the no DVI..it's hard to find a good videocard for a good price with a HDMI on it as of now.

I do know that I have 2 dell 23 inch monitors hooked up and they are freaking sweet! I love duel monitors. it's just buy 2 acers from newegg when they are on sell if it where me....

im using 2 of those vizio 32inch hdtvs for my main desktop setup. looking at this woot as my torrent machine monitor. if only it would swivel

In for one. So tired of my tiny and aging HP vs 17. Now I can word process in that while the Daily Show plays on Hulu with this new guy; gaming should be better, too!

hoolahoopzoo wrote:Is it just me, or does the idea of HDCP bug anyone else? What if I create an unencrypted hi-def DVD (or somethin') I want to watch and this !@#$% monitor doesn't let me? Doesn't that sound like more forced compliance to anyone else?

Question: are there any similar monitors _without_ HDCP? Or do they come at a premium?

Thanks in advance.

It's actually somewhat counter intuitive. HDCP enabled monitors ALLOW you to watch copy protected high-def content instead of blocking it. An unencrypted high-def DVD (like a burned Blueray) would play fine. But if you don't have an HDCP enabled monitor, than you would have to use a program like AnyDVDHD to decrypt blueray or HD-DVDs that you bought from a store.

Basically, HDCP monitors are good, and to answer your question non-HDCP monitors are normally cheaper, since they are generally older. (Everyone wants to be able to watch blueray in 1080p so they want an HDCP enabled display) It won't limit anything and you will want an HDCP enabled monitor if you want to be able to watch blueray or HD-DVD movies that you bought from a store.

If that didn't make sense, here is an article that will explain it with pretty pictures: http://www.digitalconnection.com/FAQ/HDTV_12.asp

I bought the 24" model last time it was on Woot. It's the same as this, really, only this is 16:9 while mine is 16:10.

The picture is very clear, and I really don't have any complaints. The speakers are pretty weak, but I don't think that's a big surprise. They'll do in a pinch to let you know when emails arrive and whatnot, but you won't want to use them to watch a movie.

For $150, I highly recommend this.

tillwhompson wrote:It's actually somewhat counter intuitive. HDCP enabled monitors ALLOW you to watch copy protected high-def content instead of blocking it. An unencrypted high-def DVD (like a burned Blueray) would play fine. But if you don't have an HDCP enabled monitor, than you would have to use a program like AnyDVDHD to decrypt blueray or HD-DVDs that you bought from a store.

Basically, HDCP monitors are good, and to answer your question non-HDCP monitors are normally cheaper, since they are generally older. (Everyone wants to be able to watch blueray in 1080p so they want an HDCP enabled display) It won't limit anything and you will want an HDCP enabled monitor if you want to be able to watch blueray or HD-DVD movies that you bought from a store.

If that didn't make sense, here is an article that will explain it with pretty pictures: http://www.digitalconnection.com/FAQ/HDTV_12.asp

Thanks, that did help, and yes, it is counterintuitive!

1. is this a good deal
2. should i buy it

I have a smaller model, and the only problem with it is the stand. Mine is very wobbly. It's vibrating a little as I type this.

"Famous maker?!?!" Really, people? And a refurb at that?? Come ON! At LEAST buy a brand you have heard of!! But hey - it's your hard-earned money! You get what you pay for!

MichaelSF wrote:That's pretty slick if you made this monitor tune in TV channels.

Sat or Cable box source feed.Done

All this and no DVI? Now that's a darn shame!

Infusor wrote:Uh...vga can't do 1080p, so only one of those inputs is fully functional.

WRONG! VGA does support 1920x1080.

dbsidney wrote:"Famous maker?!?!" Really, people? And a refurb at that?? Come ON! At LEAST buy a brand you have heard of!! But hey - it's your hard-earned money! You get what you pay for!

I've heard of HP. They make computer thingies.

enoeno45 wrote:How is 2500x1600 twice that of 1920x1080? 2x1920x1080 is 3840x2160.

No, that's four times the size. If you double each dimension, you're multiplying it by 2x2. 1920x1080 is 2.07 million pixels. 2500*1600 is 4 million. 3840x2160 is 8.29 million.

how would one hook up an Xbox 360 or PS3 to this, and at the same time use external speakers?

rdulay8 wrote:how would one hook up an Xbox 360 or PS3 to this, and at the same time use external speakers?

You'd have to use the HDMI port for the video, and standard audio cables going to a different source.

Things have changed!
In college, I had 17 inch color TV and thought it was huge! Now 40 inch plus HDTV's are the norm.